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GM Press Release :
Date: March 12, 2008
Subject: Upcoming Safety Recall 07035
Potential Under hood Fire - 3.8 L Supercharged
Engine
Models: 1997-2003 Buick Regal GS
1997-2003 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP
With 3.8 L V6 Supercharged Engine (VIN1 –
RPO L67) LISTED BELOW
To: All Buick and Pontiac Dealers
Attention: Service Manager, Parts Manager, and
Warranty Administrator
Based on information from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA)
website, the media may report that General Motors will be announcing a safety
recall involving certain 1997-2003 model year Buick Regal GS and Pontiac Grand
Prix GTP vehicles equipped with a 3.8 L supercharged engine (VIN 1 – RPO L67).
These vehicles may experience an under hood fire. The fires may be caused by
drops of engine oil being deposited on the exhaust manifold through hard
braking. If the manifold is hot enough and the oil runs below the heat shield,
it may ignite into a small flame in and in some instances the fire may spread to
the plastic spark plug wire channel. Most cases have occurred five to ten
minutes after the vehicle has been turned off.
If a fire occurs, it may cascade through the engine compartment causing vehicle
damage and in some cases, the fire may spread to structures where the vehicle
was parked.
A total of 207,542 U.S. vehicles are involved. We are currently working with our
suppliers to obtain parts required to launch a safety recall in the near future.
However, in the interim, a customer advisory letter (see attached) is being sent
to all customers of record to inform them of this situation. This letter will
also provide three important precautions the customer should take: 1) Do not
park the vehicle in a garage, car port or other structure. 2) If a burning odor
is detected, the customer should take their vehicle to a dealer for inspection.
3) Customers should use premium fuel (91 octane or higher) as recommended in
their vehicle owner's manual. The customer letter will be mailed on March 13,
2008.
If a customer comes in with this letter or is otherwise concerned about this
condition, please use Technical Service Bulletin 08-06-04-019 to service their
vehicle. Please note that there are two T labor operations listed. Warranty
claims should be submitted using the specific T labor operation depending on the
source of the gasket (GM or aftermarket) you install in the vehicle. The use of
the two T labor operations may allow GM different options when the recall is
officially released. The Technical Service Bulletin 08-06-04-019 is available in
SI on March 12, 2008 and is attached for your convenience.
After the repair is complete, the customer will be ableto park their car in
their garage, car port or other structure.
A Frequently Asked Question and Answer document has been developed for your
reference. This FAQ will help answer any customer concerns. Please see the
attached Dealer FAQ's.
GMVIS information will not be available for this recall until the recall
bulletin is released to dealers
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POTENTIAL QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS
Q1: What vehicles are involved?
A1: All 1997-2003 model year Pontiac Grand Prix GTP and Buick Regal GS vehicles
equipped with the 3.8-liter L67 supercharged engine. A total of 207,542 U.S.
vehicles are involved.
Q2: What is the condition?
A2: These vehicles may experience an under hood fire. We believe the fire may be
caused by drops of engine oil being deposited on the exhaust manifold through
hard braking. If the manifold is hot enough and the oil runs below the heat
shield, it may ignite into a small flame and in some instances the fire may
spread to the plastic spark plug wire channel. Most cases have occurred five to
10 minutes after the vehicle has been turned off.
Q3: What are the consequences of this condition?
A3: Fire may cascade through the engine compartment causing vehicle damage. In
some cases, the fire has spread to structures where the vehicles were parked.
Q4: How was this condition discovered?
A4: The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration opened a preliminary
evaluation in January 2007 based on 21 customer complaints alleging engine
compartment fires after their vehicles were turned off. GM began an extensive
investigation.
Q5: Why didn’t GM know about this?
A5: The rate of occurrence was very low, about one in 1,000 vehicles.
Q6: Have there been any injuries or deaths resulting from this condition?
A6: We are aware of five minor injuries and one moderate injury. No fatalities.
Q7: How many fires have there been?
A7: We are aware of 267 fires to date.
Q8: What about property damage?
A8: We are aware of 17 fires involving structure damage.
Q9: What is GM doing to correct this condition?
A9: Due to parts availability, corrective action will occur in two stages.
First, a "customer advisory letter" is being sent to each involved customer of
record. This letter will explain the situation and provide precautionary
measures that a customer can take until their vehicle is repaired. The letter
will be mailed on March 13, 2008.
The second stage will be the release of Safety Recall Bulletin #07035 to all
Pontiac and Buick dealers. This will occur once an adequate supply of recall
parts is available. At that time, all involved customers of record will be
notified via a second letter to bring their vehicle in for the required repair.
Q10: If I have one of these vehicles, is it safe to drive?
A10: Yes. Very few of the fires (about 20 percent of the reported cases) have
occurred while the vehicle’s engine was running. The rate of occurrence is also
very low, about one in 1,000 vehicles.
Q11: Is there anything I can do to prevent a fire after the vehicle is turned
off?
A11: No.We believe the fires may be caused by drops of engine oil being
deposited on the exhaust manifold through hard braking. For now we are urging
customers to avoid parking their vehicles in a garage, car port or other
structure and to use premium fuel (91 octane or higher) in their vehicles, as
recommended in their owner’s manual. If you smell any kind of burning odor, have
the vehicle inspected by a dealership service department.
Q12: The customer advisory letter mentions oil getting on the manifold during
hard braking. Is there a problem with the brake system?
A12: No.
Q13: The customer advisory letter mentions premium fuel. Why is this important?
A13: Because the vehicle was designed to run on 91-octane fuel, using
lower-octane fuel increases under hood temperatures during operation.
Q14: Are the 1997-2003 Pontiac Bonneville, Buick Park Avenue and Riviera, and
Oldsmobile LSS involved or any vehicles with 3.8L engines without superchargers
involved?
A14: No, they are not part of this field action.
Q15: Who will pay for the repairs?
A15: Repairs will be made free of charge to customers.
Q16: I heard that there were under hood fires in Chevrolet Tahoe’s. Is this the
same issue?
A16: No. NHTSA opened a preliminary evaluation in February based on two customer
complaints of under hood fires in 2007 model year Tahoe’s. We are cooperating
with the agency but we have found no trend suggesting a recurring problem. The
Tahoes and GMC Yukons being investigated are of a different architecture and
were produced much later than the Pontiac Grand Prix GTP and Buick Regal GS.
Q17: Until Safety Recall Bulletin #07035 is released, what can dealers do to
satisfy customers who may express a concern, or request an immediate repair?
A17: Until GM parts are available for this recall and Safety Recall Bulletin
#07035 is released, GM has provided dealers with Technical Service Bulletin
#08-06-04- 019.The bulletin provides repair instructions for those customers who
have an immediate concern with their 1997-2003 model year Pontiac Grand Prix or
Buick Regal vehicle equipped with the 3.8-liter L67 supercharged engine.
Q18: When will the GM Vehicle Inquiry System (GMVIS) be loaded?
A18: Involved VINs can not be loaded to GMVIS until Safety Recall Bulletin
#07035 is released.
Q19: After completing Technical Service Bulletin #08-06-04-019, is it safe for
customers to utilize parking structures?
A19: Yes.
Q20: If the parts required to perform Technical Service Bulletin
#08-06-04-019are in short supply, can aftermarket parts be used to complete the
repair?
A20: GM approved parts are preferred, however, for the immediate repair outlined
in Technical Service Bulletin #08-06-04-019, locally obtained aftermarket parts
may be used. Dealers should be sure to submit a warranty claim with the correct
"T" labor operation when using aftermarket gaskets. Specific details are
provided in the technical service bulletin.
Q21: If a customer had the front engine rocker cover gasket recently replaced on
their 1997-2003 model year Pontiac Grand Prix or Buick Regal vehicle equipped
with the 3.8-liter L67 supercharged engine, should dealers replace the front
rocker cover gasket again?
A21: If the front rocker cover gasket was replaced by a General Motors dealer
using GM Part #24503937, then the gasket does not need to be replaced again. The
technician should complete the technical service bulletin repair by removing the
spark plug channel retainer and install the spark plug retainers as outlined in
the procedure. If the customer paid for the gasket replacement, there will be
reimbursement instructions provided when the recall is released.
Q22: Why does the procedure only call for the replacement of the front engine
rocker cover gasket and not both?
A22: GM’s investigation has not shown a need to replace the rear gasket.
Q23: An owner of an involved vehicle has concerns and requested immediate
assistance. Upon inspection it is noted during the replacement of the front
rocker cover gasket that the rear engine rocker cover gasket shows signs of oil
seepage - should the rear gasket be replaced as well?
A23: Replacement of the rear engine rocker cover gasket is not part of the
service bulletin repair procedure. Customers may wish to have the rear cover
gasket repaired as part of customer paid vehicle maintenance.
Q24: Why aren’t 1997-2003 model year Pontiac Grand Prix and Buick Regal vehicles
with the L36 non-supercharged engine involved in this safety recall?
A24: GM’s Investigation has shown that the supercharged engine has unique
operating characteristics not present with the L36 non-supercharged engine.
Specifically, the L67 supercharged engine has a significantly higher normal
under hood operating temperature.
Q25: Why are two "T" labor operations listed in Technical Service Bulletin
#08-06-04- 019?
A25: As detailed in the technical service bulletin, warranty claims should be
submitted using the specific "T" labor operation depending on the source of the
gasket used by the dealership. The use of the two "T" labor operations allows GM
different options when Safety Recall Bulletin #07035 is released.
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